Regional Sponsored Migration Scheme (RSMS) – Subclass 187 Visa

 

The Subclass 187 RSMS visa is a permanent residency visa that requires the sponsorship of a nominating employer for a role that is located in ‘regional Australia’.

The main difference between a 187 RSMS visa and a 186 Employer Nominated Scheme visa is that for a 187 visa, you need to be nominated by your employer to work in their business which is located in a part of regional Australia. Regional Australia is defined by postcode. Your nominated role must be performed in one of these eligible areas.

While only certain postcodes are eligible for RSMS in New South Wales (NSW), Victoria and Queensland, the entire states of Western Australia, South Australia, Tasmania, the Australian Capital Territory (ACT) and Northern Territory are deemed to be regional and eligible for RSMS. This means that you may be able to apply under RSMS even if you are  nominated to work for an employer in metropolitan Perth, Adelaide, Hobart, Canberra or Darwin.

There are two separate pathways or streams for the 187 visa. You can satisfy the requirements of either stream before applying for the 187 visa. The streams are called the Direct Entry stream, and the Temporary Residence Transition stream.

 

Main eligibility requirements for 187 visa

 

In order to obtain a 187 visa, the visa applicant and the employer will need to satisfy a number of requirements, including the following key requirements:

  • The visa applicant needs to perform the nominated role at the employer’s business premises which is located in a regional area. Regional areas which are eligible are defined by postcode. While only certain postcodes are eligible for RSMS in New South Wales (NSW), Victoria and Queensland, the entire states of Western Australia, South Australia, Tasmania, the Australian Capital Territory (ACT) and Northern Territory are deemed to be eligible
  • If the visa applicant is applying under the Temporary Residence Transition stream, then the applicant needs to complete 2 years of full-time work as a 457 visa holder
  • If the visa applicant is applying under the Direct Entry stream, then the role that the visa applicant is nominated to perform needs to align with an eligible ANZSCO occupation which are all ANZSCO occupations that specify a Skill Level of 1, 2 or 3
  • If the visa applicant is applying under the Direct Entry stream, then the employer will need to lodge an application to the relevant Regional Certifying Body to demonstrate that there is a genuine need for the visa applicant and that the position cannot be filled by an Australian citizen or permanent resident who is living in that area. This generally means that the employer will need to advertise the nominated role in the local newspaper and/or online for a period of 2-4 weeks
  • Visa applicant must satisfy the English requirement for this visa, or one of the available exemptions
  • Visa applicant’s salary must be consistent with the ‘Australian market rate’ for the nominated role

Please note that the above listed requirements are not the only requirements that the visa applicant and the employer/sponsor need to satisfy in order to obtain a 187 visa. The above does outline the key requirements.

 

 

Commitment that you make as a Subclass 187 visa applicant

 

In the visa application form, as the applicant, you are required to declare that you:

  • Agree to work in the nominated position for at least two years
  • Understand that if you as the applicant, or any family members included in the application or third parties acting your behalf, provide (or have provided in a previous application) false or misleading information, or bogus documents either knowingly or otherwise, the visa application will be refused and you may be subject to three year bar in relation to visas to which the fraud criterion applies. Any visa granted may be cancelled.

Effectively, this means that when your visa application is lodged, you must have the intention to work for your sponsoring employer in your nominated role for at least 2 years from the date that the 187 visa is approved.

What are the consequences if you end your employment before completing 2 years following the approval of your visa? Have a read of this post which explains the potential consequences.

 

Temporary Residence Transition (TRT) stream

 

To apply under the Temporary Residence Transition stream, you need to complete two years of employment with the employer that sponsored you for your 457 visa. Employment with a different 457 visa sponsor cannot be counted towards the two years. You need to have been working in the role that you will be sponsored for under the Subclass 187 visa application for at least 2 out of the last 3 years (excluding periods of unpaid leave).

 

English language requirement – TRT stream

 

You need to have ‘vocational’ English language ability which is satisfied if any of the following applies to you:

  • If you hold a passport from the United Kingdom, the United States, Canada, Ireland or New Zealand; or
  • The English examination scores that you need to achieve for Vocational English are as follows:
Listening Reading Writing Speaking
IELTS 5 5 5 5
TOEFL iBT 4 4 14 14
PTE Academic 36 36 36 36
OET B B B B

 

You are exempted from having to satisfy the English language requirement if:

  • You are a Minister of Religion nominated by a religious institution, or
  • Your guaranteed annual earnings for your nominated position is at least equivalent to the highest current Australian individual income tax rate (currently $180,001 per annum), or
  • If you have completed at least 5 years of full-time study in a secondary and/or higher education institution where all the tuition was delivered in English

 

Direct Entry (DE) stream

 

To apply under the DE stream, the following needs to be satisfied:

  • The tasks required (and accordingly the nominated position) corresponds to an occupation at an ANZSCO skill level of 1, 2 or 3. These skill levels generally correspond to occupations which are managerial, professional, or trade based.
  • There is a genuine need for the nominator to employ this employee and that the position cannot be filled by an Australian citizen or permanent resident who is living in that area. Applicants need to show, amongst other criterion, that the position is required and genuine given the nature of the employer’s business, the business’ size and operations, whether the business is expanding or diversifying their activities and whether there is a vacancy in the business. Some Regional Certifying Bodies require evidence of advertisement and responses to them from job applicants to demonstrate that the position had been advertised locally and that no suitable candidate was found.
  • The relevant Regional Certifying Body (RCB) has approved the relevant 187 nomination application.

 

Regional Certifying Bodies (“RCB”)

 

A RCB is required to provide advice to the Department in relation to whether the above criteria have been satisfied, that is, the position is genuine given the nature of the business and the position could not be filled by an Australian permanent resident or citizen. They basically conduct their own assessment using similar evidence as that provided for the 187 nomination application, and any additional supporting evidence as specified by the relevant RCB.

RCB application and approval is only required for the 187 DE stream. It is not required for the TRT stream.

Each region has its own RCB and you need to choose the appropriate RCB to conduct this assessment based on your employer’s location (a list of RCBs can be found here). It is also important to note that most RCB charge a fee for this service.

 

 

Relevant work experience

 

The work experience requirement was recently changed. Previously, for certain trade occupations such as Cook, Chef, Plumber etc., you needed to demonstrate 2 years of on-the job training completed as part of your course, or 2 years of relevant work experience.

For these trade occupations, the visa applicant now just needs to demonstrate that he or she has the relevant qualifications or relevant work experience to satisfy the ANZSCO framework. If the applicant relies on an Australian qualification, that qualification must be as specified within the ANZSCO framework for that occupation. For example, if the nominated position were that of a cook (ANZSCO 351411), the applicant must demonstrate one of the following:

  1. hold a relevant AQF Certificate IV or
  2. hold a relevant AQF Certificate III including at least two years of on the job training or two years of post-qualification work experience or
  3. have at least 3 years of relevant experience.

 

Skill Assessment

 

A skill assessment for your nominated occupation is generally not required unless your nominated occupation is one of these listed trade occupations. If your nominated occupation is one of these listed trade occupations, then you need a positive skill assessment or you need to have a relevant Australian qualification that satisfies that ANZSCO requirement.

 

English language requirement – DE Stream

 

The English language requirements for the Direct Entry and Temporary Residence Transition streams are different.

You need to have ‘competent’ English language ability which is satisfied if:

  • If you hold a passport from the United Kingdom, the United States, Canada, Ireland or New Zealand; or
  • The English examination scores that you need to achieve for Competent English are as follows:
Listening Reading Writing Speaking
IELTS 6 6 6 6
TOEFL iBT 12 13 21 18
PTE Academic 50 50 50 50
OET B B B B

 

You are exempted from having to satisfy the English language requirement if:

  • You are a Minister of Religion nominated by a religious institution, or
  • Your guaranteed annual earnings for your nominated position is at least equivalent to the highest current Australian individual income tax rate (currently $180,001 per annum)

 

Common eligibility requirements

 

Irrespective of whether you are applying under the Direct Entry or Temporary Residence Transition stream, you need to satisfy these common requirements:

  • You can apply for this visa if you hold a substantive visa, or a bridging visa A, B or C. If you hold a bridging visa, you won’t need to address Schedule 3
  • Age requirement
  • Equivalent terms and conditions of employment
  • If it is compulsory for you to obtain registration or licencing for you to practice in your nominated occupation, then you need to obtain this at the time of your application

 

Age requirement

 

You need to be under 50 years of age at the time that you lodge your application. There are only a few allowed exceptions to this requirement for those applicants that are 50 years of age or over which are outlined below:

  • Ministers of religion nominated by a religious institution
  • Researchers, scientists and technical specialists at ANZSCO skill levels 1 or 2 who have been nominated by an Australian government agency
  • Senior academics employed by a university in Australia
  • And for Temporary Residence Transition stream only: Persons holding subclass 457 visas, who have a) worked for their nominating employer for at least the 4 year period preceding the visa application and b) been paid at least the Fair Work High Income Threshold (as of 1 July 2013, this amount is $129,300) for each of these 4 years

 

Equivalent terms and conditions of employment

 

  • Your sponsoring employer needs to demonstrate that the terms and conditions of your employment are no less favourable than the terms and conditions of employment for an equivalent Australian citizen or permanent resident (known as the ‘market rate’ requirement). Your employer can show this by providing a copy of the contract of an Australian citizen or permanent resident that is working in the same position and location as your nominated role under the Subclass 187 visa application (other evidence of the Australian’s salary may be acceptable such copies of payslips or payment summaries).
  • If there is no much equivalent Australian, then your employer can provide evidence of what the Australian market salary rate is for your nominated role and show that your guaranteed annual salary is at least equal to the market rate (e.g. provide salary survey data for your industry and role).

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Dependents who are over 18 – Functional English language ability

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This applies for both the DE and TRT streams.

All adult dependents who are over 18 years of age will need to demonstrate ‘functional’ English language ability. This can be demonstrated in a number of ways:

  1. Achieve English examination results outlined below; or
  2. Complete all years of primary education and at least 3 years of secondary education at educational institutions in which all instruction was conducted in English; or
  3. Complete at least 5 years of secondary education at institutions in which all instruction was conducted in English; or
  4. Complete in Australia at least 1 year of full-time study or equivalent part-time study towards a degree, higher degree, diploma, or associate diploma at an institution or institutions where all the instruction was conducted in English; or
  5. Hold an award (being a degree, a higher degree, a diploma or a trade certificate) that required at least 2 years of full-time study or training; and all instruction (including instruction received in other courses for which the person was allowed credit) for that award was conducted in English.

Required Scores to establish Functional English are as follows:

Test component Average test score
IELTS 4.5
TOEFL iBT 32
PTE Academic 30

 

The application process

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You can only lodge an application using the Department’s online portal.

You can only prepare the online visa application form once your nominating employer has at least started to prepare the nomination application for your role (which is also prepared using the online portal). This is because you need the nomination application TRN which will be issued to your employer once they have started to prepare the nomination application.

You can lodge your visa application while you are inside or outside of Australia (but you won’t be granted a Bridging Visa A that is associated with your Subclass 186 visa application if you are outside of Australia at the time of lodgement).

After you have lodged the application, you upload the supporting documents electronically. As part of the initial application, you do not need to submit any actual paper work or forms. It is all online.

In my experience with NSW applications, normal processing time is 3-8 months.

 

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How much does this visa cost?

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The below is just a list of the relevant government lodgement fees:

  • 186 nomination application: $540
  • Base application fee: $3520
  • Additional applicant charge for each additional adult that is 18 years and over: $1760
  • Additional applicant charge for each additional adult that is 18 years or under: 880

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Secondary visa application charge (SVAC)

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This needs to be paid if anyone in your application who does not satisfy the English language requirement that applies to them. However, as the primary applicant, you need to meet the English language requirement. If you do not meet the English language requirement – then one of the exemptions outlined above must apply to you. If one of the exemptions apply to you as the primary applicant, then you need to pay the SVAC if you also do not have ‘functional’ English language ability.

This fee is paid at the time of decision so your case officer will contact you at the time that the payment is required.

As the primary applicant, if you don’t have functional English language ability, then the SVAC is $8,520. For other adult dependents that can’t demonstrate functional English, the SVAC is $4,520.

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Frequently asked questions

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  1. Q: For the TRT stream, can I count work that I completed under another visa like 485 and student visa?
    A: No
  2. Q: For the TRT stream, can I count work completed with a different employer?
    A: No
  3. Q: For the TRT stream, can I lodge my application before I complete 2 years of full-time work if I am close to completing 2 years?
    A: No – you must satisfy the 2 year requirement at the time of application

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495 thoughts on “Regional Sponsored Migration Scheme (RSMS) – Subclass 187 Visa

  1. Lina

    Hi Peng,

    I’m currently on 485 visa & it expires on 03/2018 & planning to apply for RSMS visa through DE stream.
    Occupation : Food Scientist
    I have got following qualification and experience
    Qualification: Master level in Australia
    Post qualification work experience: 4 months only
    just wondering does it matters how many months/ years of experience I have got to apply for RSMS?
    AND
    Should I get a skill assessment through VETASSESS ?

    Thanks
    Lina

    Reply
      1. Nishan

        Hii Peng.. How are you mate.
        I applied rsms in march 2017. So accourding to the current time frame my file will be open in next year. Is there any chance to decrease the processing time. Thanks alot.

        Reply
  2. Shery

    Hello there,
    I have applied for subclass 187 visa 20th of august last year. Can you please tell me how long it will more take to open my file.
    Thansk
    Shery

    Reply
    1. Peng Cheng Post author

      Hi Shery,
      Sorry but you may need to wait a few more months.
      Sorry but there isn’t any set processing time – DIBP’s general response is that it will take the time necessary to assess all the legal requirements if you call them.
      Suggest that you contact DIBP if you would like to follow-up.
      PC

      Reply
  3. Nidz

    Nidz
    Hi peng
    I hv lodged 187 few months back. Can i lodge another 187 for diff occupation. My qualification is good for both occupations and i have 2+ year australian experience also. I am not sure if 2 applications can be lodged together….or maybe lodge 457

    Reply
    1. Peng Cheng Post author

      You are allowed to have multiple applications pending at the same time, although it is unusual to lodge two employer sponsored visas from different businesses. Probably need to check whether the applications will affect each other
      PC

      Reply
  4. Jas

    Hi I hav applied 187 trt visa after working 2 years on full time 457 visa so I just want to what will be the condition after 187 visa granted . Do I still hav to work with my same employer if yes then how long? And do I hav to live in regional area still? If yes how long plz advise me thx

    Reply
  5. Nadine Van Heerden

    Hi Peng,

    We submitted our 187/186 direct entry nomination in Apr 2016. On 26May 2017 they requested further information which was submitted on 19 June 2017.

    We are still awaiting final approval. Any idea how long this could take?

    Reply
    1. Peng Cheng Post author

      Hi Nadine,
      Hopefully you’ll get a decision in the next few weeks.
      Sorry but there isn’t any set processing time – DIBP’s general response is that it will take the time necessary to assess all the legal requirements if you call them.
      Suggest that you contact DIBP if you would like to follow-up.
      PC

      Reply
  6. p.f

    Hi Peng cheng

    I work as an executive assistant in my home country. I have submitted a EOI for regional sponsored class 487.

    Do you think nomination is possible? The skill code is 521211

    Reply
    1. Peng Cheng Post author

      Hi PF,
      Sorry but I haven’t tried obtaining an invitation for this visa under this specific occupation before.
      PC

      Reply
  7. Rajbir

    Hi peng my name is rajbir i applied RSMS visa in September 2016 and im still waiting for my visa plese let me know how long will takes to get my visa thanks peng

    Reply
  8. Tim

    Hi,
    I am planning to lodge my 187 application. Employer has created an account and provided me the TRN. Can I apply through that TRN? I am going to include my spouse in the aapplication. Also do I need to pay visa application fees $3600 in regard to this OR I have to pay later after I got the approval from RCB? I am confused what to do. Please help me.

    Kind regards

    Tim

    Reply
    1. Peng Cheng Post author

      Hi Tim,
      You can lodge with the TRN provided by the employer.
      You need to pay the full application fee at the time of lodgement.
      PC

      Reply
  9. Thusi

    I’m just posting this for others information who applied the VISA and still waiting. My application dates are

    1. Nomination sent on 19 May 2016
    2. Applied for RSMS VISA on 23 June 2016
    3. Nomination approved on 28 June 2017
    4. VISA approved on 03 July

    So it took more than 13 months. My advise to everybody is be patient (which is impossible) and upload all the required documents (In my case immigration didn’t ask for any additional documents) so you can save some time there if you already upload everything.

    Also I would like to thank Peng for the service he provides. It’s really helpful.

    Good Luck Everyone.

    Reply
    1. zizi

      Hi Thusi,
      How about health examination? in your case did y wait for immigration requirement or you did it in advance? Thanks

      Reply
      1. Thusi

        I did it two weeks after the VISA application. When you apply for VISA they give the details of what tests need to be done.

        Reply
        1. zizi

          Thanks for your reply. I applied 187 offshore on 7th of December 2016. I dont know what should i do with health examination. By the way, congratulations 🙂

          Reply
      1. zizi

        Hi Peng, I did apply 187 direct offshore on 7th of December 2016. My nomination approved in Octocber 2016. do you think how many months i need to wait for the outcome? And in my case should i do health examination in adavance or i should wait for immigration request? Thanks

        Reply
        1. AMAN DHILLON

          Hi zizi. U must have your hap ID. So you can book your health examination. Better get it done before immigration ask for it.

          Reply
          1. zizi

            really? your agent say we better done the heath exqmination before the immigration officer asks for it? I ask my agent and she said i should wait for officer asking. therefore, i dont know what should i do now. How is your visa going? When did you lodge your visa?

        2. Peng Cheng Post author

          Processing time varies lot – perhaps around 2-4 months.
          You can do your health exams now, or when your case officer asks for this – up to you.
          PC

          Reply
          1. zizi

            In your experience, is it any difference if we done heath examination in advance or wait for officer asking? And I am the offshore application. If i do health examination, it will be the same way as we do heath examintion in Australia. Thanks Peng Cheng

          2. P.s

            Hi zizi , you should go for health examination before c.o ask for it . By this you can save your time and yes , process is same as in Australia .

          3. Peng Cheng Post author

            You can complete your health examinations now if you want a decision-ready application.
            Some applicants hold off until the case officer asks for this if they have issues or risks with their application.
            PC

    2. jaspreet

      hi thushi,
      in which occupation u have applied for?
      actually I have applied nomination last may and visa end of june 2016 for cook
      but haven’t heard anything from DIBP
      thanks
      jas

      Reply
  10. Ann

    Hi Peng,
    I’m worried about my visa. So, can you please answer my questions?
    I’m holding 457 visa ( secondary applicant) and my employer just applied for me 457 ( main applicant) and 187 ( Nominate and Application at the same time ). These two visa they applied in the same day.
    Is it okay to apply for these two visa at the sane time?
    And I haven’t received any thing from Immi like acknowledgement or bridging visa. Only the receipt from them. All the application have been lodged 2 days ago.
    Normally, how long does it take to get the bridging visa?
    Thanks a lot.

    Reply
    1. Peng Cheng Post author

      You are allowed to have multiple applications in processing at the same time.
      Bridging visa should be issued shortly after lodgement of your visa application.
      PC

      Reply
  11. kim

    hi peng.
    i applied rsms direct entry oct.2016
    how long do u think i have to wait more? thanks in advance

    Reply
    1. Peng Cheng Post author

      Hi Kim,
      Perhaps a few more months – hard to say sorry.
      Sorry but there isn’t any set processing time – DIBP’s general response is that it will take the time necessary to assess all the legal requirements if you call them.
      Suggest that you contact DIBP if you would like to follow-up.
      PC

      Reply
      1. Manbir

        Hi Peng
        Is it possible to apply 187 visa while having Bridging B visa.

        I am planning to withdraw my partner visa file and apply for Rsms
        And currently I am on Bridging B visa in association with Partner visa file.

        Thanks
        Manbir

        Reply
        1. Peng Cheng Post author

          Yes you can lodge a 187 visa application as a BVB holder, as long as you haven’t had a visa refusal or cancellation.
          PC

          Reply
  12. Jeanette

    Hi Peng, I would like to ask do I need Vetasses skills assessment for cafe/restaurant manager if I am going to lodge 187 rsms direct entry? Thank you very much.

    Reply
  13. james hooda

    Hey Peng,
    I lived in Australia for almost 8 years. Currently i am in my home country. I am considering to a apply for Australia again on RSMS visa. i have student visa cancellation and Partner visa refused ( on shore). Does immigration history will effect my visa decision, even if i fulfill all the requirement for RSMS visa. ( i was not deported i felt willingly.

    Reply
    1. Peng Cheng Post author

      Hi James,
      The Department’s prior refusals should explain if any ban period applies to yourself – you can disregard ban periods for temporary visas if you are applying for a permanent residency visa.
      Please see Contact Us page and in relation to our Consultation Service – feel free to contact us if you need advice in relation to your visa options.
      PC

      Reply
  14. Janpal Singh

    Hi Peng Cheng,
    First of all i would like to thank you that you are replying to every single one questions. My question is here, i m going to apply for 187 visa with RCB , Nomination and Application in the same time next week. Currently i m on Bridging A visa, because my last 457 visa refused and after that i did applied for AAT. But currently i hold Bridging A with full work rights. My wife is 30 weeks pregnant.
    Should i need to apply from offshore or can i still apply from inshore. and secondly after applying for 187 visa is i m going to get Medicare or Not.
    Thanks
    Janpal Singh

    Reply
  15. amita patel

    hi I applied RSMS visa but i don’t get bridge visa ,now i have student bridge a visa .so plz let me know when i will get rsms bridge visa

    thank you

    Reply
    1. Peng Cheng Post author

      Hi Amita,
      You should be granted the bridging visa shortly after you lodge – you can contact the Department if you are missing this bridging visa.
      PC

      Reply
  16. Sohail

    Hi peng,
    I hope you are fine today. Actually I am very confused about 187 visa I hope you can help me out. First of all, I really don’t know what is employee nomination I mean my nomination and how to apply for it. My migration agent sent the RSMS employer nomination form to immigration, same form that is used for employer nomination and he said this is you nomination. Before this my RCB approved in November 2016.
    So the problem is that after submitting that form on 10th of January , they applied for my visa at the end of January but without documents. This month I import my application through my account and when I opened it, has no documents attached. Why did not they attach my documents.
    I am really worried about it. Some people say that they are waiting for your nomination and some says it will delay your application further. I really have no idea what’s going on. I applied Employer nomination in AUG 2016.
    Kindly explain me about nomination what is it and how long it will take?Do I need to attached my documents as soon as possible or waiting for my nomination.

    Reply
    1. Peng Cheng Post author

      Hi Sohail,
      I’m sorry but like other professionals/agents, we charge for our advice.
      Please see Contact Us page and in relation to our Consultation Service – feel free to contact us if you need advice in relation to your visa options.
      PC

      Reply
  17. Arafat Ansari

    Hi peng, I have applied in RSMS in 26Apr 17 , I guess I have long way to wait. They (immi) started processing Jan 16 and July 16 simultaneously in the the beginning of Jan 17 to clear the back log. Do you see processing time being reduced anytime soon?

    Reply
    1. Daljeet

      Dear,
      Who gave you this information, they are assesing files for july 16. It is depend on your occupation. Some lucky one got nomination and visa approval with in 8 month.

      Thanks
      Sunny

      Reply
      1. Arafat

        Please check immi reply. They started processing files lodged jan16 and jun 16 simultaneously from Jan 17 onwards. So pretty much sure they (immi) have cleared most of th back log and processing time will decrease

        Reply
  18. Wilson Chang

    hi pang,
    i have applied nomination and visa for 187 DE last week as a restaurant manager NSW. my employer will apply RCB later July. is this action safe and lawful?

    Reply
  19. P.s

    Hi peng
    I have lodged nomination of 187 in September 2016 n visa in January 2017 as a chef . My question is as immigration taking so long nowadays ,if immi drag the result till march 2018 can they ask for 3years experience or after approval of nomination i ll be out of that .
    Thanks

    Reply
    1. Peng Cheng Post author

      Hi PS,
      That would depend on the change affects pending applications – this depends on the new law which the government hasn’t released yet.
      For example, the 457 changes affected pending applications.
      PC

      Reply
  20. Angelo

    Hi Peng, I have an employer that wanted to sponsor me and they are based in Dubbo in regional NSW. My question is that do I have to work with the employer for a specific time period e.g. 6 months or 1 year before I can apply for RSMS or can I apply for it straight away as soon as I start with my employer?

    Thank you,

    Angelo

    Reply
    1. Peng Cheng Post author

      Hi Angelo,
      For the 187 DE steam, there isn’t any legal requirement to work for the employer before the visa is granted.
      PC

      Reply
  21. sukh

    hello sir
    i have calculated score with the help of 489 i get 55 score as a cook.
    i want to ask that my wife have done bachelor in dental surgery in 2015 from India and she has 7 each in general ielts
    so she has to get skill assessment to help me providing 5 more point and then my score becomes 60 and then i can apply for PR. i want to ask that will she have to give practical test for skill assessment ?
    thank you.

    Reply
    1. Peng Cheng Post author

      Please see requirements set out by the relevant skill assessment body for her occupation.
      PC

      Reply
  22. sahil

    Hi
    I lodge my nomination and rcb for rsms187 in Aug 2016 and lodge my file for rsms187 in Dec 2016 and still no response yet . Can anybody can tell me that process timing start from nomination or it start the process timing when u lodge the file .
    Thanks

    Reply
    1. Peng Cheng Post author

      Department may assess the nomination application first if you lodged this a few months before the visa application.
      PC

      Reply
  23. sukh

    hello sir
    i have certificate 3 in commercial cookery diploma in hospitality management and certi 4 in commercial cookery all study in Australia .
    i have paid one year experience as a cook in Australia.
    i came back inda in 2013 and i have been living in india for more then three years and someone wants to sponsor me as a cook in tasmania (rsms)
    i want to ask do i have to give trade test as a cook in india before applying rsms?

    Reply
    1. Peng Cheng Post author

      Hi Sukh,
      You don’t need a skill assessment if you have an Australian Cert IV obtained by study in Australia.
      PC

      Reply
      1. Ruby

        Hi peng .i have logged nomination n file as restaurants manager in end of November 2016 .when r the changes to open file

        Reply
    1. Daljeet

      Hii ricky,

      Depend on your occupation. At the moment immigration assessing files for sept only in high skill trade like plumber, mechanic etc.for retail managers and restaurant managers/cook looking like may 2016 somewhere.

      Reply
  24. Preet

    Hi Peng,
    My 187 employer nomination was refused 26th May. Immigration gave me 28 visa. I m going to apply MRT(AAT). I was on BVA. Can I start Job ready skilled assessment pathway with MRT is in process for my second option. Am I eligible for apply point base skilled visa after this.

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      1. Manbir

        HI Peng,
        I have alread applied for Subclass 187 nomination and Visa direct entry on 2nd May 2017. My query is if any changes coming to Subclass 187 in July 2017 or March 2018 may effect my file or not..

        Regards

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        1. Peng Cheng Post author

          Hi Manbir,
          That depends on the changes that the government makes, if any (i.e. government decides if changes affect pending applications).
          PC

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          1. Manbir

            Hi Peng,
            But on the immigration website is says i have to meet the requirements at time of application lodgement.

            at time of application lodgement, have the required skills and qualifications for the position you have been nominated for – you must hold any mandatory registration, license or professional membership, or you must already be fully assessed as suitable by the relevant body
            at time of application lodgement, have appropriate English language skills for Temporary Residence Transition (TRT) stream and Direct Entry (DE) stream unless you are exempt
            meet health and character requirements
            meet the requirements of the stream in which you apply.

          2. Peng Cheng Post author

            Yes the Department’s website should have information for the current law – not sure what your question is.
            PC

    1. Daljeet

      Hiii preet,
      When u applied for nomination. If u dnt mind can i get reason of refusal. I also applied for nomination that’s why i am worried

      Thanks
      Sunny

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    2. Ricky

      Hi preet when did u lodged ur file and what is the reason they gave to u for refusal . Pls share with it will be very helpful for us thanks preet

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  25. wen

    HI Peng,

    Is the dependant for 187 visa can only test for IELTS or can my patner go for PTE as well? And normally how long is the nomination will get result after the RCB approved? WIll it depend on the region of case office? I hear my friend say different region will be assign to different territory case office

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  26. Daljeet

    Thanks mate. Any of your applicant got nomination approval, who applied last year arround same time period

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    1. AMAN DHILLON

      Hi Daljeet! Why are you wasting your time. Apply visa as well otherwise you have to wait for same 13 to 14 months processing time for visa application after nomination.

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  27. Anita

    Hi Peng
    I am going to complete my master degree in October. My question is that do we get 187 visa first and then need to wprk fork for two years with the employer or first we need to work for two years and then we will get rsms 187 visa?
    Thanks

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  28. richa

    Hi peng,
    my husband and i both got RSMS 187 visa on 30 april 2017, i was secondary applicant in his application ,now i am in Australia from one week and i was in India before this, by some conflicts yesterday my husband push me out from his house.
    my question is that can i live in Australia on my visa basis or i have to go back to my country?
    thanks.

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  29. sd

    hi peng
    i applied my RSMS 187 on 10 June 2016, but not yet appointed a case officer.can you please tell me the reason for this.
    What are current processing time for this visa?

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    1. Daljeet

      Hii sir,

      I applied for 187 nomination in july 2016 still not recive any response.usually how long it will take. Some of lucky applicant applied in sept 2016 and got their nomination.can u please tell me exactly which month files are processing now

      Thnks
      Sunny gill

      Reply
      1. Peng Cheng Post author

        Your processing time is probably beyond the Department’s standard processing times.
        Sorry but there isn’t any set processing time – DIBP’s general response is that it will take the time necessary to assess all the legal requirements if you call them.
        Suggest that you contact DIBP if you would like to follow-up.
        PC

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    2. Peng Cheng Post author

      Hi SD,
      Your processing time is probably beyond the Department’s standard processing times.
      Sorry but there isn’t any set processing time – DIBP’s general response is that it will take the time necessary to assess all the legal requirements if you call them.
      Suggest that you contact DIBP if you would like to follow-up.
      PC

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  30. Samrat

    Hi Peng,
    I have applied 187 visa and now I am going to apply 485 visa as well. My question is to apply 485 visa is i need to do health insurance or my medicare card will work. I have medicare card after i applied 187 visa.
    Thanks
    Samrat

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    1. Peng Cheng Post author

      Hi Samrat,
      Yes you can use your Medicare card instead of insurance: Temporary visa holders who apply for a permanent visa may be issued with a Medicare card that is valid until a final decision is made on their permanent visa application. Temporary visa holders who hold a valid Medicare card under these circumstances, may be considered to meet the minimum requirements for adequate health insurance for the period of time they hold the valid Medicare card.
      PC

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  31. baljinder gill

    hi peng ,
    its gill here, I just want to confirm that which visa will be better 187 or 485 ,187 is from 7 eleven what you think of that. because my study is going to finish in july .
    looking forward to hear you..
    regards
    gill

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    1. Peng Cheng Post author

      Hi Gill,
      I don’t think that a 7/11 can sponsor a 187 visa.
      Sorry but I can’t provide advice just based on your comment information.
      Please see Contact Us page and in relation to our Consultation Service – feel free to contact us if you need advice in relation to your visa options.
      PC

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  32. Hammy

    Its Hammy, Currently I m on student visa and my visa is finishing in 2018 march. I have done commercial Cokery and diploma of hospitality.I have been working in Italian restaurant from last two years and this restaurant is in regional area . I m confused what should I go for RSMS or 457 . After considering all rules which happened recently in457. Please show me the right path.THANKS

    Reply
    1. Peng Cheng Post author

      Hi Hammy,
      Sorry but I can’t provide advice just based on your comment information.
      Please see Contact Us page and in relation to our Consultation Service – feel free to contact us if you need advice in relation to your visa options.
      PC

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  33. Larry

    Hi Peng
    Quick question
    My student visa is going to expire on November 2017 so if I lodge RCB and nomination for 187 do I get bridging visa straightaway or when pls explain
    Regards
    Larry

    Reply
    1. Peng Cheng Post author

      Hi Larry,
      You get the bridging visa shortly after lodging the visa application, not nomination or RCB.
      PC

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    1. Owen Wu

      And the processing time on the dibp website(13 months) is talking about the new application or the application being processed? Thank you.

      Reply
  34. Noor

    Hello peng,
    I want to apply 187 visa but my spouse dont have 4.5 bands in ielts . Can we still pay 5000 $ to immigration if dont have ielts . And when we have to pay, when our fille will be open or on the time When we apply the visa.
    Thanks

    Reply
    1. Peng Cheng Post author

      Hi Noor,
      You can pay the Secondary visa application charge (SVAC) after lodgement when the case officer asks for this – they will provide you with instructions for payment.
      PC

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  35. Sidhu

    Hi Peng
    I have applied RSMS visa 10 months ago. My question is that my employer is going to sponsor another person now. So I want to know that if there is any affect on my file because another person is having a different employment contract salary than me. He is getting 54000 per annum and when I lodge my file , my employment contract was 47500. we both having a same position.
    Immi can question that why we both having a diffrent salary than each other when we are on same position. Could you plz suggest me if it’s going to affect me.
    Thanks and kind regards

    Reply
    1. Peng Cheng Post author

      Sorry can’t say much about your application just based on the above information.
      Please see Contact Us page and in relation to our Consultation Service – feel free to contact us if you need advice in relation to your visa options.
      PC

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  36. Barry

    Hi
    Peng
    I am in MRT now is their any chances can I apply for 187 visa? If it is possible,I should apply the visa onshore or offshore.
    Thank you

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  37. Moon

    Hi Peng,

    I’m now a cook, Can I apply visa 187 for Cook ( I’ve got Cert 4 in Commercial Cook ) , if not, can I apply for Chief with Cert4 but no chief experince?

    Thank you very much for your kind response.

    Reply
    1. Peng Cheng Post author

      Hi Moon,
      Cert IV may allow you to apply as a cook.
      Please see Contact Us page and in relation to our Consultation Service – feel free to contact us if you need advice in relation to your visa options.
      PC

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  38. Hardip Kaur

    Hi, I am in student visa currently studying business, and If Applied for A rsms visa, should i need to pay my tution fees to college fees ? As my student visa will be running, I saw processing time for rsms visa is 12 months direct entry

    Reply
    1. Peng Cheng Post author

      Hi Hardip,
      Yes you need to comply with the conditions of your student visa which is still valid.
      PC

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      1. Jassi

        Hi
        I applied 187 on November and i got rcb approved on 16 December then I lodged nomination and visa 2 January 2017 how long more i have wait . Which month department currently working on thanks

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